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PMP Preparation June 7 -22 (IST) - Tim

Hey all, just opening this up for dialogue and questions on the side if we don't want to disrupt the class. All class-related content welcome.
 

tim jerome

Well-Known Member
Trainer
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Tim - I thought the other two options are the answers since it asks NOT the reason. Please clarify.
I'm going to say that I tend to agree with you. However...

What is the REAL purpose of the code of ethics?
Instill confidence in the project management profession
help an individual become a better practitioner.


These two items don't talk about ethics. They talk about ensuring confidence in our craft and helping us become better. Under this description, do A and B not align more, or do C and D not align more. I agree A,B and C,D define different categories.

Thoughts?
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
Tim - Choice Platform spotlight series on Communication Channels say that we should include PM too in the number of team members while calculating n(n-1)/2 formula. so, if I have 4 analysts, 2 testers - my 'n' should be 4+2+1(PM), right? However, I see Simplilearn and many other platforms leaving out on PM and solving the question with just addition and subtraction of the team members. Can you please state if we should include PM while calculating this type of numerical question in the exam? Thank you in advance!
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
I'm going to say that I tend to agree with you. However...

What is the REAL purpose of the code of ethics?
Instill confidence in the project management profession
help an individual become a better practitioner.


These two items don't talk about ethics. They talk about ensuring confidence in our craft and helping us become better. Under this description, do A and B not align more, or do C and D not align more. I agree A,B and C,D define different categories.

Thoughts?
Well, now that you mention, I see this is a tricky choice of words. Let me get back after I read and interpret the Code of Ethics in detail. I will keep this point in mind when I do that. Thank you for the reply.
 

tim jerome

Well-Known Member
Trainer
Tim - Choice Platform spotlight series on Communication Channels say that we should include PM too in the number of team members while calculating n(n-1)/2 formula. so, if I have 4 analysts, 2 testers - my 'n' should be 4+2+1(PM), right? However, I see Simplilearn and many other platforms leaving out on PM and solving the question with just addition and subtraction of the team members. Can you please state if we should include PM while calculating this type of numerical question in the exam? Thank you in advance!
This can be tricky. The formula is correct, what we are looking for is the appropriate 'n'.

There are two scenarios that you may see -

The scenario discusses "you" as the PM - it directly talks to you. With you in the discussion, unless information says otherwise, add yourself.

The scenario discusses 'the team' with no mention of the PM. Don't concern yourself adding the PM.

The exam questions are very prone to checking for your attention to detail with these types of questions.
 
You as a project manager are approaching project closure and you want to review project closure requirements and guidelines. What will you consider to accomplish such task:
A. Enterprise environmental factors
B. Project charter
C. Organizational process asset
D. Project management plan

Am left with 2 choices here. C or D? Please guide
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
You as a project manager are approaching project closure and you want to review project closure requirements and guidelines. What will you consider to accomplish such task:
A. Enterprise environmental factors
B. Project charter
C. Organizational process asset
D. Project management plan

Am left with 2 choices here. C or D? Please guide
If I may attempt to clarify -
As per PMBOK, pg. 123 - It is option D: Project Management Plan.
Organization Process Assets - is an output of this review process and will be updated accordingly.
 
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Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
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Tim - Both these questions are similar but the formulas used is different. I tried hard to reason it out but unable to. Please clarify the reason. Thanks!
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
Bootcamp Notes Excerpt: Expect for the exam - 'mark for review' of 40 or less. If uncertain of more ('50-50'), you need more study.

Can anyone/Tim explain this?
 
If I may attempt to clarify -
As per PMBOK, pg. 123 - It is option D: Project Management Plan.
Organization Process Assets - is an output of this review process and will be updated accordingly.
Thanks for your response Bharathi. Can you please refer page 126 in PMBOK under OPA's. First bullet point "Project or phase closure guidelines or requirements. Am not sure what is the right answer here.
 
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Tim - Both these questions are similar but the formulas used is different. I tried hard to reason it out but unable to. Please clarify the reason. Thanks!
Yes. This seems confusing. The first answer is based on the triangular distribution (O+R+P)/3 and the second answer is based on Beta distribution(O+R(4)+P)/6). Not sure how to choose which formula to use. I remember reading in one of the trusted PMP resource material that if a question doesn't indicate which method, we should use beta distribution.
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
Thanks for your response Bharathi. Can you please refer page 126 in PMBOK under OPA's. First bullet point "Project or phase closure guidelines or requirements. Am not sure what is the right answer here.
I get what you are referring to. Let me clarify from what I understood -
OPAs are organizational assets which out of many guidelines also includes project/phase closure process. Here, the question refers to YOUR task i.e. PM's task to accomplish - to close project/phase. Now, OPAs may have general organizational/previous projects' guidelines but MY Project Management Plan has the closure guidelines of MY SPECIFIC project. So, the best answer here would be the Project Management Plan.
This is my understanding. Please feel free to debate further if you disagree. We can learn further from these conversations :)
 
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Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
Yes. This seems confusing. The first answer is based on the triangular distribution (O+R+P)/3 and the second answer is based on Beta distribution(O+R(4)+P)/6). Not sure how to choose which formula to use. I remember reading in one of the trusted PMP resource material that if a question doesn't indicate which method, we should use beta distribution.
Oh okay. When I researched about Triangular & Beta distribution, it said -
Use Triangular Distribution - When we don't have a lot of experience/historical information
Use Beta Distribution - Where there is historical data or some sample to work with

If you see the question stem in my samples -
Q1 - 'new product' - Answer uses Triangular Distribution
Q2 - 'new product development project' - Answer uses Beta Distribution

I am yet to figure out the above logic. Still not very clear :'( Expecting some 'hard logic' to this from you, Tim or anyone here :)
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
On 20 July 2021, I cleared my exam with 'Above Target' in all three domains. I wanted to share my experience and learnings with all of you. My eligibility was expiring and I decided quite late to take up an exam. I had just 1.5 months. These helped me. It may/may not work for everyone here. Feel free to take cues and tailor it to your needs.

Exam Pattern (what my set of questions had)

1. 80-90% Agile and Hybrid questions; very few Predictive questions; No ITTOs but know what document does what.
2. Multiple choice, Multiple Select, Drag and Drop, Hotspots
3. Only 1 EMV formula question
4. No 'Least Likely to choose...' type of questions. Questions were pretty straight forward.
5. Most questions:
- What will you do in this situation? - Choose the option that logically will help you, the project, and the other person/situation in question. At times question stem helps greatly. Example: What process will you choose in this situation? Here 'process' is important. It helps you narrow down from the answer options.
- What will you do first in this situation? - Key word: First. This can get tricky as mostly we tend to choose Analyze/Evaluate kind of answers. Example: Sometimes we don't have to assess the impact at all. We may outright reject it also (like gold plating). So, read the question carefully.
6. Most important concepts:
- Servant Leadership
- Virtual Teams & Communication Types - https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/best-practices-virtual-project-teams-6038
- Personality Type
- Tuckman Ladder - https://www.projectmanagement.com/b...velopment-and-the-Role-of-the-Project-Manager
- Difference between Product Owner, Scrum Master/Agile Coach, Development Team (Point 5 below - Scrum Guide will help clarify this)
Conflict Resolution - https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/project-management-organizational-conflict-resolution-2035

Exam Preparation (how I did)

1. I started with Simplilearn self-learning tutorials. Noted down all points.
2. I attended Tim's live classes.
3. Read Rita and PMBOK 6th edition simultaneously. Example: If I read the Integration chapter, I follow it up with PMBOK section on Integration. You may not enjoy but I was engrossed. It made my basics strong.
4. (Optional) At the end of each chapter, I took a few sample questions from this website. It has around 2500 questions on each topic. It is free and a good way to start answering questions. I didn't do it extensively. Just enough to get around a few questions right in a row. I just took this to see if I understand the concepts. Website Link: https://lovepmp.com/docs/question/pmp-questions/
5. I read the Agile Practice Guide completely. Initially, I did not understand much. So, I read the Scrum Guide. I recommend to read both 2020 and 2017 versions. They are less than 20-page PDFs. I highly recommend it for every one. This is the base for every question on Agile/Hybrid. Website Link: https://scrumguides.org/
6. (optional) I enrolled into Prep-Cast. I used this only to fill my knowledge gaps. The reference material that they post with each questions helped me gain more knowledge. It is expensive but I would suggest you to try their 7-day trial. Website Link: https://www.project-management-prepcast.com/pmp-exam/the-pmp-exam-simulator (Free Tab on top). There are many free simulators too.
7. Be sure to go through the most recent community threads. They have lots of information and links to many free materials/sample questions.

Exam Experience

1. I took a center-based exam at Pearson in India.
2. Exam is divided into three parts. Total exam time is 230 mins. At the end of each 60 questions you will have to submit them. You can't revisit. The two 10-min breaks in between are optional.
3. After first 60 questions, the system prompts you to review and submit. Review time is included in the 230 mins. Timer is running. So, don't take your sweet time to review. I reviewed only the flagged questions that I had marked. Hardly 1-2. Exam time runs still you submit your questions. After that prompts to continue exam or take a break starts.
4. Once you submit your set of 60 (1-60, 61-120, 121-180) questions it will ask you if you want to take a break. If yes, your 10-min break time starts. Be sure to take this time to refresh or clear your mind. And, return within 10 mins to resume test. Next set of questions will resume and your exam time continues.
5. Be sure to tell yourself during breaks not to to bother about the submitted questions. Start afresh.
6. I wasn't allowed to carry anything inside the exam room except my passport. However, you can access your locker for eatables. I ensured I quickly visited the rest room, drink some water, sit for 2-mins to reaffirm myself and return. In the second break, I ate some dry fruits too just to avoid hunger.
7. I was asked to wear a mask throughout the exam. Mask, specs was all checked before entering the exam.
8. I didn't do any brain dump at the beginning of the exam. I didn't need it too especially formulas. If you want to, it has to be done only after your first question pops-up. So, I didn't want to waste my time. You can please do if you feel you will forget any formula. I had only 1 formula question. So, I was ok.

Parting Note

My overall experience was exhaustive as I didn't have much time. I struggled my way through figuring out a study plan. But I would say take up as many servant leadership questions as possible. Highly recommend that. While answering questions, I answered them the way I would handle so that my team benefits, my project benefits, my organization doesn't have any impacts (like compliance issues). You will get most of the questions right. It has nothing to do with memorization. All the very best!
 
On 20 July 2021, I cleared my exam with 'Above Target' in all three domains. I wanted to share my experience and learnings with all of you. My eligibility was expiring and I decided quite late to take up an exam. I had just 1.5 months. These helped me. It may/may not work for everyone here. Feel free to take cues and tailor it to your needs.

Exam Pattern (what my set of questions had)

1. 80-90% Agile and Hybrid questions; very few Predictive questions; No ITTOs but know what document does what.
2. Multiple choice, Multiple Select, Drag and Drop, Hotspots
3. Only 1 EMV formula question
4. No 'Least Likely to choose...' type of questions. Questions were pretty straight forward.
5. Most questions:
- What will you do in this situation? - Choose the option that logically will help you, the project, and the other person/situation in question. At times question stem helps greatly. Example: What process will you choose in this situation? Here 'process' is important. It helps you narrow down from the answer options.
- What will you do first in this situation? - Key word: First. This can get tricky as mostly we tend to choose Analyze/Evaluate kind of answers. Example: Sometimes we don't have to assess the impact at all. We may outright reject it also (like gold plating). So, read the question carefully.
6. Most important concepts:
- Servant Leadership
- Virtual Teams & Communication Types - https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/best-practices-virtual-project-teams-6038
- Personality Type
- Tuckman Ladder - https://www.projectmanagement.com/b...velopment-and-the-Role-of-the-Project-Manager
- Difference between Product Owner, Scrum Master/Agile Coach, Development Team (Point 5 below - Scrum Guide will help clarify this)
Conflict Resolution - https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/project-management-organizational-conflict-resolution-2035

Exam Preparation (how I did)

1. I started with Simplilearn self-learning tutorials. Noted down all points.
2. I attended Tim's live classes.
3. Read Rita and PMBOK 6th edition simultaneously. Example: If I read the Integration chapter, I follow it up with PMBOK section on Integration. You may not enjoy but I was engrossed. It made my basics strong.
4. (Optional) At the end of each chapter, I took a few sample questions from this website. It has around 2500 questions on each topic. It is free and a good way to start answering questions. I didn't do it extensively. Just enough to get around a few questions right in a row. I just took this to see if I understand the concepts. Website Link: https://lovepmp.com/docs/question/pmp-questions/
5. I read the Agile Practice Guide completely. Initially, I did not understand much. So, I read the Scrum Guide. I recommend to read both 2020 and 2017 versions. They are less than 20-page PDFs. I highly recommend it for every one. This is the base for every question on Agile/Hybrid. Website Link: https://scrumguides.org/
6. (optional) I enrolled into Prep-Cast. I used this only to fill my knowledge gaps. The reference material that they post with each questions helped me gain more knowledge. It is expensive but I would suggest you to try their 7-day trial. Website Link: https://www.project-management-prepcast.com/pmp-exam/the-pmp-exam-simulator (Free Tab on top). There are many free simulators too.
7. Be sure to go through the most recent community threads. They have lots of information and links to many free materials/sample questions.

Exam Experience

1. I took a center-based exam at Pearson in India.
2. Exam is divided into three parts. Total exam time is 230 mins. At the end of each 60 questions you will have to submit them. You can't revisit. The two 10-min breaks in between are optional.
3. After first 60 questions, the system prompts you to review and submit. Review time is included in the 230 mins. Timer is running. So, don't take your sweet time to review. I reviewed only the flagged questions that I had marked. Hardly 1-2. Exam time runs still you submit your questions. After that prompts to continue exam or take a break starts.
4. Once you submit your set of 60 (1-60, 61-120, 121-180) questions it will ask you if you want to take a break. If yes, your 10-min break time starts. Be sure to take this time to refresh or clear your mind. And, return within 10 mins to resume test. Next set of questions will resume and your exam time continues.
5. Be sure to tell yourself during breaks not to to bother about the submitted questions. Start afresh.
6. I wasn't allowed to carry anything inside the exam room except my passport. However, you can access your locker for eatables. I ensured I quickly visited the rest room, drink some water, sit for 2-mins to reaffirm myself and return. In the second break, I ate some dry fruits too just to avoid hunger.
7. I was asked to wear a mask throughout the exam. Mask, specs was all checked before entering the exam.
8. I didn't do any brain dump at the beginning of the exam. I didn't need it too especially formulas. If you want to, it has to be done only after your first question pops-up. So, I didn't want to waste my time. You can please do if you feel you will forget any formula. I had only 1 formula question. So, I was ok.

Parting Note

My overall experience was exhaustive as I didn't have much time. I struggled my way through figuring out a study plan. But I would say take up as many servant leadership questions as possible. Highly recommend that. While answering questions, I answered them the way I would handle so that my team benefits, my project benefits, my organization doesn't have any impacts (like compliance issues). You will get most of the questions right. It has nothing to do with memorization. All the very best!
THANKS BHARATHI..!!

It will be of great help.
 
On August 15th, I cleared my PMP with an above target in all domains.

Exam experience
1. Questions were majorly hybrid. Good blend and agile and predictive in each question.
2. 90% situational: what PM would do first, next.
3. No ITTOS's at all
4. No math calculations at all. CPI/SPI values indicated in the question and what actions should PM take.
5. One MBTI
6. No hotspot
7. 2 drag and drops
8. 7-8 multiple response questions
9. Questions were not lengthy but definitely required 2 reads to choose the right answer
10. I was left with no time to review. First 60 questions were very challenging, 2nd set of questions were simple, 3rd set was moderate.
11. Online proctored exam: Check in process was smooth. One of the proctor pinged and disturbed for no good reason. i tried to stay focus on my exam


Materials used
1. Andrew ramadayal Udemy course
2. PMBOK 6th edition and Agile practice guide
3. PMI study hall for practice questions and mock exams (I highly recommend it. This is the closest to real exam). Questions were of same length, similar vagueness and limited level of detail.

I recommend not to have too many guides. These materials according to me would suffice
 
On 20 July 2021, I cleared my exam with 'Above Target' in all three domains. I wanted to share my experience and learnings with all of you. My eligibility was expiring and I decided quite late to take up an exam. I had just 1.5 months. These helped me. It may/may not work for everyone here. Feel free to take cues and tailor it to your needs.

Exam Pattern (what my set of questions had)

1. 80-90% Agile and Hybrid questions; very few Predictive questions; No ITTOs but know what document does what.
2. Multiple choice, Multiple Select, Drag and Drop, Hotspots
3. Only 1 EMV formula question
4. No 'Least Likely to choose...' type of questions. Questions were pretty straight forward.
5. Most questions:
- What will you do in this situation? - Choose the option that logically will help you, the project, and the other person/situation in question. At times question stem helps greatly. Example: What process will you choose in this situation? Here 'process' is important. It helps you narrow down from the answer options.
- What will you do first in this situation? - Key word: First. This can get tricky as mostly we tend to choose Analyze/Evaluate kind of answers. Example: Sometimes we don't have to assess the impact at all. We may outright reject it also (like gold plating). So, read the question carefully.
6. Most important concepts:
- Servant Leadership
- Virtual Teams & Communication Types - https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/best-practices-virtual-project-teams-6038
- Personality Type
- Tuckman Ladder - https://www.projectmanagement.com/b...velopment-and-the-Role-of-the-Project-Manager
- Difference between Product Owner, Scrum Master/Agile Coach, Development Team (Point 5 below - Scrum Guide will help clarify this)
Conflict Resolution - https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/project-management-organizational-conflict-resolution-2035

Exam Preparation (how I did)

1. I started with Simplilearn self-learning tutorials. Noted down all points.
2. I attended Tim's live classes.
3. Read Rita and PMBOK 6th edition simultaneously. Example: If I read the Integration chapter, I follow it up with PMBOK section on Integration. You may not enjoy but I was engrossed. It made my basics strong.
4. (Optional) At the end of each chapter, I took a few sample questions from this website. It has around 2500 questions on each topic. It is free and a good way to start answering questions. I didn't do it extensively. Just enough to get around a few questions right in a row. I just took this to see if I understand the concepts. Website Link: https://lovepmp.com/docs/question/pmp-questions/
5. I read the Agile Practice Guide completely. Initially, I did not understand much. So, I read the Scrum Guide. I recommend to read both 2020 and 2017 versions. They are less than 20-page PDFs. I highly recommend it for every one. This is the base for every question on Agile/Hybrid. Website Link: https://scrumguides.org/
6. (optional) I enrolled into Prep-Cast. I used this only to fill my knowledge gaps. The reference material that they post with each questions helped me gain more knowledge. It is expensive but I would suggest you to try their 7-day trial. Website Link: https://www.project-management-prepcast.com/pmp-exam/the-pmp-exam-simulator (Free Tab on top). There are many free simulators too.
7. Be sure to go through the most recent community threads. They have lots of information and links to many free materials/sample questions.

Exam Experience

1. I took a center-based exam at Pearson in India.
2. Exam is divided into three parts. Total exam time is 230 mins. At the end of each 60 questions you will have to submit them. You can't revisit. The two 10-min breaks in between are optional.
3. After first 60 questions, the system prompts you to review and submit. Review time is included in the 230 mins. Timer is running. So, don't take your sweet time to review. I reviewed only the flagged questions that I had marked. Hardly 1-2. Exam time runs still you submit your questions. After that prompts to continue exam or take a break starts.
4. Once you submit your set of 60 (1-60, 61-120, 121-180) questions it will ask you if you want to take a break. If yes, your 10-min break time starts. Be sure to take this time to refresh or clear your mind. And, return within 10 mins to resume test. Next set of questions will resume and your exam time continues.
5. Be sure to tell yourself during breaks not to to bother about the submitted questions. Start afresh.
6. I wasn't allowed to carry anything inside the exam room except my passport. However, you can access your locker for eatables. I ensured I quickly visited the rest room, drink some water, sit for 2-mins to reaffirm myself and return. In the second break, I ate some dry fruits too just to avoid hunger.
7. I was asked to wear a mask throughout the exam. Mask, specs was all checked before entering the exam.
8. I didn't do any brain dump at the beginning of the exam. I didn't need it too especially formulas. If you want to, it has to be done only after your first question pops-up. So, I didn't want to waste my time. You can please do if you feel you will forget any formula. I had only 1 formula question. So, I was ok.

Parting Note

My overall experience was exhaustive as I didn't have much time. I struggled my way through figuring out a study plan. But I would say take up as many servant leadership questions as possible. Highly recommend that. While answering questions, I answered them the way I would handle so that my team benefits, my project benefits, my organization doesn't have any impacts (like compliance issues). You will get most of the questions right. It has nothing to do with memorization. All the very best!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
 

Bharathi Bhaskar

Active Member
On August 15th, I cleared my PMP with an above target in all domains.

Exam experience
1. Questions were majorly hybrid. Good blend and agile and predictive in each question.
2. 90% situational: what PM would do first, next.
3. No ITTOS's at all
4. No math calculations at all. CPI/SPI values indicated in the question and what actions should PM take.
5. One MBTI
6. No hotspot
7. 2 drag and drops
8. 7-8 multiple response questions
9. Questions were not lengthy but definitely required 2 reads to choose the right answer
10. I was left with no time to review. First 60 questions were very challenging, 2nd set of questions were simple, 3rd set was moderate.
11. Online proctored exam: Check in process was smooth. One of the proctor pinged and disturbed for no good reason. i tried to stay focus on my exam


Materials used
1. Andrew ramadayal Udemy course
2. PMBOK 6th edition and Agile practice guide
3. PMI study hall for practice questions and mock exams (I highly recommend it. This is the closest to real exam). Questions were of same length, similar vagueness and limited level of detail.

I recommend not to have too many guides. These materials according to me would suffice
Many congratulations, Aishwarya. All the best!
 
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